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Solange · Mar 01, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Warriors can go +20 armor against elemental damage on chest/legs if 13 strength

And I read somewhere that the chest/leg area are HIT the most

So opinions or whats the deal man?

Biostem · Mar 01, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28

The Sentinel's insignia you described is only vs elemental damage; if you wanted something less conditional, then you might go w/ a survivor's insignia for more health, or possibly a sentry's if you use stances most of the time...

itsvictor · Mar 01, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Because I heard more health is better.

Seriously, the damage that can be dealt from so many different sources will rip you apart if you don't have high enough health. That armor boost won't save you that often. It's not as conditional as Biostem said.

Gift3d · Mar 01, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

Yeah, that's only vs. a specific type of damage, plus assuming it's on one piece of armor, only having a chance to even use that additional armor. +health is against every type of damage, unconditionally.

zling · Mar 01, 2008, 02:41 AM // 02:41

I always go with full Sentry's on my Warrior.
as a Warrior you should always be in stance, no problem there...
and +10 armor stacks nicely with the +16 from shield and 80 basic to a wooping 106 armor, which can be boosted even further with armor mods on weapon/shield.
since most of the dmg in PvP comes from physical/elemental sources such high armor reduces the dmg u take by a lot. much better than some more health lmho...
the main problem though is attack skills, as extra damage from them doesnt get reduced by armor.

Randvek · Mar 01, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

People go with +health now that you can't armor swap anymore. Before you could definitely have a set with +20, and another set with something else. Since you can't swap for conditions, though, people just go with the health.

Mr Emu · Mar 01, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35

one thing you can do is run +armor on the chest piece, as all non-projectile spells hit there

jonnieboi05 · Mar 01, 2008, 04:53 AM // 04:53

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Originally Posted by zling

...as a Warrior you should always be in stance, no problem there...

i do NOT agree with this statement what-so-ever. in pvp, yea, sure, but in PvE, which a lot more people play in, this is not true.

mrmango · Mar 01, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

But you should be in a stance. Not being one is obviously done a lot, by idiots.

jonnieboi05 · Mar 01, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04

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Originally Posted by mrmango

But you should be in a stance. Not being one is obviously done a lot, by idiots.

if you're reffering to me, then you'd be gravely mistaken by thinking my level of skill play is low and "idiotic". *ahem* ...i 'spose having "god walking amongst mere mortals (6)" on my primary, my warrior, is me being a noob and not knowing how to play one.

mrmango · Mar 01, 2008, 05:19 AM // 05:19

A PVE title like that takes only time, skill is optional. That really won't vouch for much skill I'm afraid. I remember you from some other thread.. you liked using axes and .5 sec activation attacks right? Meh, there's better stuff you can do.

jonnieboi05 · Mar 01, 2008, 05:33 AM // 05:33

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Originally Posted by mrmango

A PVE title like that takes only time, skill is optional. That really won't vouch for much skill I'm afraid. I remember you from some other thread.. you liked using axes and .5 sec activation attacks right? Meh, there's better stuff you can do.

ah.... i'm sure with me as a warrior dishing out 330dmg+ by myself alone (with all of those NOT being critical hits, and also depending on the type of proffesion i'm attacking, i.e., more dmg) within 4 seconds is bad... ok then.. i'll keep that in mind for future references.

Songbringer · Mar 01, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Um, Warriors don't always have to be in stance. Just because you like to run a glad's def war in ra and think you are god doesn't make bieng in stance 100% of the time good or appropriate.

jonnieboi05 · Mar 01, 2008, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by Songbringer

Um, Warriors don't always have to be in stance. Just because you like to run a glad's def war in ra and think you are god doesn't make bieng in stance 100% of the time good or appropriate.

thank you. my point exactly.

and btw, seeing glads defense in RA makes me giggle inside

edit: forgot to mention-- also, when i can hit another warrior in HM with a single attack and that attack hits for 100+ dmg.. i think i'm doing quite well for myself.

Kale Ironfist · Mar 01, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by Mr Emu

one thing you can do is run +armor on the chest piece, as all non-projectile spells hit there

Source? They have the same chances to hit the various pieces of armor as every other attack/spell in the game.

alen · Mar 01, 2008, 10:54 AM // 10:54

Armor doesn't do shit against degen

Shuuda · Mar 01, 2008, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by alen

Armor doesn't do shit against degen

Or armor ignoring damage.

DutchSmurf · Mar 01, 2008, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Big part of all damage is armor ignoring (most mesmer/necro spells, +damage on attacks), so health is better then armor.

zling · Mar 01, 2008, 11:21 AM // 11:21

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Originally Posted by alen

Armor doesn't do shit against degen

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Originally Posted by shuuda

Or armor ignoring damage.

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Originally Posted by dutchsmuf

Big part of all damage is armor ignoring (most mesmer/necro spells, +damage on attacks), so health is better then armor.

if all of you are correct than why do monks and most other casters carry shields with +10 armor vs various types, mainly slashing and bludgeoning?
it's true that armor doesnt help against degen, but degen isnt such a big deal, and your monks can easily handle it...
of course armor doesnt protect against armor ignoring damage but I wont say that most damage sources are armor ignoring... the most damaging profession is the warrior, thus the damage is mostly physical, remember attack skills arent always used there is a down time... same goes for dervishes and thumpers.
with sins its different as the pathetic 7-17 dmg from daggers wont make or break the sin's combo. but then besides the Sinepitude builds sins are rarely used in GvG...

now, its not that extra health is not good, its just that the mix of extra health, +30 from weapon, +30/45 from shield, superior vigor and perhaps a few runes of vitae is already plenty of extra health for me. the extra armor combined with extra health is the key to survival, balance is always superior to extremes...

LifesRestorer · Mar 01, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27

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Originally Posted by zling

if all of you are correct than why do monks and most other casters carry shields with +10 armor vs various types, mainly slashing and bludgeoning?

cause they can swap their shields freely at no cost. you cant swap your armour